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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: A hello, some advice and need some help plz Reply with quote

Hi, my names Chris and I work in a small cartidge retailer/refilling shop in Plymouth. Most of my training came from a very helpful friend of the shop owner in Bristol however I'm looking for additional sources of input as I've often found that getting advice from more than one source is more beneficial than relying upon the advice of one induvidual (no matter how experienced they actually are). So, Hi all. Smile

First up. Lexmark 16/17's. What a pain they are. However I have in recent weeks found a method to refill even the most dried ones with what is so far a very high success rate and I'd like to share the info incase anyone else is having problems or has further suggestions. As you know the heads on these things get blocked very very easily, it has gotten to be such a problem that we no longer offer a 'while you wait' service for refilling of these cartridges for our customers. Instead offering a 'drop off today, pick up tomorrow' option instead.

But I've found that purchasing some dead-head solution from companies like UFP and allowing the cartridge head to rest over several hours in a shallow pool of the solution works especially well. However once it has been resting for several hours it needs to be removed from the solution and have any solution which has been soaked up sucked out to avoid contamination, I then take it straight to a sonic-bath for around 20-30 seconds and it tends to shake loose any remaining residue. To avoid any water pollution it then needs to be sucked dry again. Then filled and taken to a test printer where it is worth doing around 3-4 prints to make sure the quality remains consistant. So far for me I've had a near 100% success rate with this across around two dozen cartridges or so.

Now then, on the subject of difficult cartridges we could use some suggestions. I dunno how many of you are UK based or not so perhaps I need to find a UK forum but I'm hoping some of you can help with this or at least give us some advice or opinions. To date we've checked the remans from around 5 different suppliers for things like HP, some Canons and of course Lexmark. Reliability has varied quite a bit but nobody appears to supply a good quality reman for Lexmark 16/17, Lexmark 26/27 or Canon CL-41 and PG-40. We've tried suppliers like Inkjets Direct, Greentech, Impress and others with most of the cartridges they send us being sent back as poor quality. Things like colour contamination and blocked heads are very common place especially on the Canon 41 cartridges. Our colleague in Bristol doesn't tend to bother keeping these cartridges on the shelf, instead opting for the OEMs instead. However as you all know the revenue on the OEMs bearly justify keeping them in stock. Given how widespread the issues are with these cartridges we've pretty much given up any hope of finding a reliable supplier for keep these items on the shelf as we do not have sufficient supplies of empty cartridges to fill them ourselves to the point of keeping up with the demands for them. Hence the need to buy them in.

Can anyone recommend a couple of good UK distributors for these remans or are these cartridges too unreliable to buy-in as remans from everyone?

Inkspot Cartridges
43 North Hill, Plymouth, UK
01752 669662
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Refilling the Lexmark 10N0016 can be trickier than most.
The 10N0016 cartridges are filled with Lexmark’s notorious pigmented
ink. The ink formula seems to be similar to the 1970 cartridges, but does not seem to render the cartridge useless as quickly by drying to the “point of no return.” However, it thickens to a shoe-polish consistency. Soaking for about 3 hours minimum is recommended for these cartridges. The issue lies above the print head in the pre-firing chamber, which is the barrel shaped reservoir adjacent to the print head. There is a filter screen that collects the greasy residue and eventually clogs the cartridge. I have attached a picture to illustrate where the filter screen is located and what it looks like the ink is beginning to turn to "shoe polish".

The best remedy I have found, besides a complete remanufacturing process including replacing the sponge, would be to fill the cartridge when it hits the 50% empty mark. This will keep the cartridge running smoothly with no interruptions. Also filling the cartridge at 50% with dye based ink will actually dilute the greasy ink and less clogging will occur. And at just a few cycles or refills the cartridge will be purged completely of the pigmented ink and the issue will not arise again.
Thank you

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Inkspot

I was reading your post and wondering if the cleaning tips you gave applied to Lexmark's colour cartridges?

You also mention sucking out the solvent to prevent contamination. Is there an easy way to do this. How do you judge the time a cartidge can be left to soak before contamination has begun.

On refilling, would cellotape (sticky sides stuck together) or clingfilm be good potectors for the printhead (to prevent it drying out)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

use a centrifuge to spin out the old ink for 6 minutes then fill the canons with OCP ink under vacuum, you can fill while the customer waits + they will print fine

im guessing you have a centrifuge
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